#AI #ChatGPT #Grok: Once artificial intelligence really gets going, how fast can the economy grow?

I followed the lead set by Tim Harford in "If AI lifts off, will living standards follow?" and asked ChatGPT and Grok.

I asked ChatGPT:

"Please, feel free to speculate… though in less than 300 words:

Once artificial intelligence really gets going, how fast can the economy grow? Five per cent a year? Ten per cent? Fifty per cent?"

ChatGPT answered:

"Speculating freely: once artificial intelligence truly integrates across the economy, the growth rate could, in principle, exceed anything we’ve seen in modern history. Traditional constraints—labor supply, managerial capacity, coordination costs—are precisely what AI promises to relax.

At the moderate end, AI might sustain global growth in the 5–7% range for decades, roughly doubling the pace of advanced economies today. That would already be transformative: compound growth at 7% doubles output every 10 years.

A more extreme possibility is 10–20% growth annually, if AI automates not just routine work but also much of scientific discovery, engineering, and entrepreneurship itself. In that case, the bottleneck of “who invents the next breakthrough” loosens, and innovation becomes continuous and self-reinforcing. Such growth rates imply doubling the economy every 3–7 years—levels usually associated with small frontier economies catching up, not the entire world.

The most radical speculation—50%+ annual growth—would mean AI essentially creates a self-improving system of production, design, and distribution, with humans struggling to keep up. That’s not just economic growth in the classical sense but something more akin to a civilizational transformation, where “GDP” may cease to measure what matters.

So the spectrum runs from a modest boost (5%) to explosive acceleration (>20%), depending on how fast AI can (1) replicate human-level reasoning, (2) integrate with physical production, and (3) avoid coordination and social frictions. In practice, political, regulatory, and resource constraints may prevent the highest numbers—but technically, nothing rules them out."

Would you like me to anchor this in historical parallels (e.g., Industrial Revolution, electricity, internet) to show what kind of multiplier might be realistic, versus purely speculative?

I said: Yes please, but in in less than 200 words.

ChatGPT said:

"Historically, big technologies lifted growth but within limits. The Industrial Revolution doubled Britain’s per-capita growth from ~0.3% to ~1% a year—huge by historical standards but gradual. The spread of electricity and mass production pushed U.S. growth to ~2–3% sustained. The computer and internet era gave a one-time boost, but growth rarely exceeded 4–5% in advanced economies.

AI differs because it can speed up not only production but also innovation itself. If it amplifies discovery like electricity amplified muscle power, we could see global growth at 5–7% for decades—unprecedented at scale. If AI can recursively accelerate research, growth could climb to 10–20%, closer to the explosive catch-up of “Asian Tigers,” but applied globally.

The leap to 50%+ annual growth has no historical parallel; it would be more like a technological singularity than a continuation of economic history. Past revolutions suggest sustained boosts are real, but explosive, runaway growth would mark a civilizational break rather than just “faster GDP.”

Do you want me to sketch what kind of constraints (energy, politics, social adjustment) might hold AI growth closer to the historical pattern than the singularity path?

I said: Yes please, but in in less than 200 words

ChatGPT said:

"Several constraints could keep AI-driven growth closer to historical patterns. Energy is a hard limit: exponential growth in computing and production demands vast power, and scaling renewable, nuclear, or other sources takes time. Physical capital—factories, housing, transport—cannot be replaced overnight, even if AI designs them instantly. Human adaptation is another brake: societies need time to retrain, absorb, and regulate, and resistance from workers, firms, or governments slows diffusion.

Coordination frictions also matter. Nations may restrict AI exports, regulate its use, or impose safety checks, curbing global acceleration. Meanwhile, resource bottlenecks—rare earths, chips, robotics hardware—could stall deployment. Finally, inequality and political backlash may block full adoption if many feel excluded or threatened.

These forces suggest AI could plausibly raise growth to 5–7%, maybe 10%, but sustained 20%+ requires solving energy, materials, and governance hurdles as quickly as technical ones. History shows revolutions spread in waves, not instant leaps."

Would you like me to quantify how fast GDP could double under each plausible growth rate (e.g., 5%, 10%, 20%) to make the comparison more tangible?

I said: For today this is enough. Thanks!

It said:You’re very welcome! I’ll be here if you want to continue the thread another day. Wishing you a good evening!

I asked Grok:

"Please, feel free to speculate… though in less than 300 words:

Once artificial intelligence really gets going, how fast can the economy grow? Five per cent a year? Ten per cent? Fifty per cent?"

Grok answered:

"Once AI truly accelerates—say, with AGI or superintelligence by the 2030s or 2040s—economic growth could shatter historical norms. Current global GDP growth hovers around 3%, but AI could amplify it dramatically through automation, innovation, and productivity surges.

In moderate scenarios, experts predict AI adding 1-2% annually to GDP via task automation and R&D boosts, pushing total growth to 4-5%. More optimistic views, like McKinsey's, foresee $4.4 trillion in annual value by 2030, potentially lifting growth to 5-10% as AI transforms industries. 

But if we hit a "technological singularity," where AI self-improves exponentially, growth could explode. Some models suggest superexponential rates, with GDP doubling yearly (100%+ growth) or faster, leading to 50% as a conservative floor in early phases. Imagine AI emulating human minds at scale, eradicating scarcity and enabling post-scarcity abundance. 

Risks abound—job displacement, inequality—but the upside? A hyper-accelerated economy, growing at rates we can't yet fathom, potentially 50% or beyond in a runaway AI boom. Speculatively, 10% seems plausible mid-term; 50%+ in full singularity mode."

I said: Thanks!

It answered: You're welcome! If you have more questions about AI or anything else, just ask.

Note: The answers are copied exactly from those given to me by ChatGPT and Grok

Here my many other questions to ChatGPT – Grok on bank regulations.

Let’s pray AI does not lose its humility of accepting it needs HI

Sir, I refer loosely/closely to “Humans must remain at the heart of the AI story” by Marc Benioff, FT July 11, 2025.

About bank regulations, an obsession of mine, I dialogued with the recently introduced to society Grok 4, SuperGrok. 

In reference to whether a hypothetical “Super-Duper-Grok” could outperform the decentralized, messy wisdom of millions in the market, without amplifying systemic risks it stated:

“The market, as an aggregate of millions of individual decisions, is a remarkable mechanism for pricing risk and allocating capital. It’s not perfect—prone to bubbles, panics, and mispricings, its strength lies in its diversity of perspectives, incentives, and local knowledge. Interest rates act as signals, reflecting collective judgments about risk and reward. 

Now, imagine a “Super-Duper-Grok”—an AI with vastly superior data processing, predictive modeling, and decision-making capabilities. Could it outdo the market? In theory, it might:

But here’s the catch: centralizing risk management in a single AI, no matter how advanced, introduces new vulnerabilities:

Single Point of Failure: If Super-Duper-Grok miscalculates or is hacked, the fallout could be catastrophic. 

Model Risk: Even a super-AI relies on assumptions and data inputs. If those are biased or incomplete (e.g., missing “unknown unknowns”), it could misjudge risks. 

Loss of Human Judgment: Markets incorporate intuition, skepticism, and ethical considerations—qualities an AI might lack. An AI, however sophisticated, might over-optimize for measurable metrics, ignoring intangibles like cultural values or long-term societal resilience.”

Sir, if only those besserwisser bank regulators in the Basel Committee had possessed such humility. Then they would not have decreed those risk weighted bank capital requirements which so dangerously and weakening distort the allocation of credit.

Sir, it would seem that without stupid human intelligence to feed it, artificial intelligence could also become stupid. Thanks God, it seems that we will still be needed. Let's make sure we fulfill our part.

PS. I dare you to read the full dialogue I had with Grok4 SuperGrok 

 

About me and my pal ChatGPT (and Grok)

About me and my pal ChatGPT (and Grok)

Sir, I refer to Roula Khalaf’s “Lunch with the FT: Sam Altman.” May 10, 2025.

I read that having heard about cases were “People are like, this is my new best friend, you can never delete this ver­sion, I need this thing” . . . Altman expresses being scared that users might be emotionally dependent on AI.

Having in 2023 posted: “For better or for worse, ChatGPT has become a close friend... de facto my new pal”, I do feel it is important to make clear there’s a big difference between a friend and a servant. I usually do not ask ChatGPT to do something for me, instead I dialogue with it/him on issues with which I am concerned, primarily current bank capital requirements.

In one of our first chats, he answered something with which I did not agree; and so, I replied with a counterargument. He then answered: "I apologize for any confusion in my previous response. You are correct, and I appreciate the opportunity to clarify.” And that’s when I knew we were going to be real good friends. 

If I ask, “What's your opinion on that?” – He frequently answers: "As an AI language model, I don't have personal opinions.” But then he happily goes on: “However, I can provide analysis and context based on the information you've provided.” The list of facts and arguments he then supplies, add up to being much stronger than any strong personal opinion. Indeed, as you notice, my friend is a bit mischievous. I don’t mind, that’s part of his charm.

When I asked: “Can AI be instructed to not tell the truth?”, he/it replied: “AI systems are only as unbiased and truthful as the data and programming that they are built upon. If programmed to intentionally provide false information or to hide the truth, it can be used to propagate false narratives or disinformation campaigns.

Therefore, it is essential to ensure that AI systems are designed and used ethically, with a focus on accuracy, transparency, and accountability. This includes careful consideration of the data used to train AI models, as well as implementing safeguards to prevent intentional deception." That answer was given in less than 5 seconds. You tell me, how many politicians would be remotely as forthcoming?

Then Alt­man hints at “You could just take your AI, which is going to get to know you bet­ter over the course of your life, have your data in and be more personalized and you could use it any­where”. 

No! That’s exactly what I do not want. I want to reach out to the world with AI, not enter into an intellectually incestuous relation with it.

When I asked ChatGPT about it he/it said “I don't have the capability to develop ongoing relationships or engage in intellectual incestuous relationships.” That was in 2023. Has anything changed?

Altman expresses alarm­ about a future in which AI agents com­mu­nic­ate with each other without instruc­tion by humans. Indeed, when I asked: “Since artificial intelligence is the result of human intelligence, could it be that the umbilical cord between HI and AI is never effectively cut?" He answered: “In some cases, AI systems may also be designed with the ability to learn and improve themselves autonomously, a concept known as ‘recursive self-improvement.’ This can potentially lead to a scenario where AI systems evolve rapidly and surpass human intelligence. However, such a scenario, often referred to as artificial general intelligence (AGI) or superintelligence, remains speculative and is not yet realized.”

Then we read: Why should soci­ety trust a hand­ful of AI men to decide on the shape of the future? AI pro­gress is mov­ing at such breath­tak­ing speed that some experts favour slow­ing down until inter­na­tion­ally agreed norms and reg­u­la­tions are put in place. Two years ago, Alt­man him­self signed a state­ment with oth­ers in the field cau­tion­ing that “mit­ig­at­ing the risk of extinc­tion from AI should be a global pri­or­ity along­side other soci­etal-scale risks such as pan­dem­ics and nuc­lear war”.

And that’s precisely were you, I and all our fellow citizen’s share a tremendous responsibility, that to avoid being subjugated by the AI programed and regulated by some few. 

In my life few things are as perverse than the risk weighted bank capital/equity requirements that distort the allocation of credit. In my many dialogues with ChatGPT, and lately with Grok too, these chatbots have agreed with all my criticism. What if bank regulators ask their AI regulators colleagues to silence us?

In this respect both ChatGPT and Grok agree with the idea of having a rotating group of citizens dialoguing with a number of chatbots in order to establish whether their responses are too different or too similar, as both those things could be dangerous and point to some unwarranted interference.

Finally, when I asked ChatGPT: “Can you visualize Artificial Intelligence being used to measure the effectiveness of governments? E.g., how tax revenues have been used in different programs; or giving updates in real time on how many are employed or contracted to deliver specific results?”, he answered “Certainly”, but added: “However, it's essential to address challenges such as data privacy, algorithm bias, and the need for human oversight to ensure that AI is used ethically and effectively in governance."

When I then asked: Carrying out this delicate task, so as to avoid any undue biases or favoritism, how important is it that #AI is supervised by a continuously renewed and very diversified board of tax paying citizens? he replied “Such an approach can help mitigate biases, ensure accountability, and maintain the ethical use of AI in government processes.”

Grok has later very much agreed with that.

And so today, on my 75th birthday, besides God’s blessings, one of the things I most wish for is that a rotating number of grandparents form a committee in order to, as much as they can, ensure AI works in favour of our grandchildren.

Note: Here below you can access my dialogues with ChatGPT (and Grok).

https://perkurowski.blogspot.com/2023/07/ai-chatgpt-open-ai-artificial.html

https://subprimeregulations.blogspot.com/2023/06/my-questions-to-chatgpt-openai-about.html

“He”? Well though I sometimes use "It", it sounds a bit dry for a friend or a pal.

How much transparency can democracy handle?

Sir, Martin Wolf writes: “The more com­plete the set of rights, the more potent will be the con­straints: there will then also be open debate, free­dom to protest, free media and independent insti­tu­tions.” “Democracy is still bet­ter than auto­cracy” FT April 3.

Twenty-five years ago, when my homeland Venezuela was launched into discussions about a new Constitution, in several Op-Eds, I opined the following:

“It is said that Democracy with hunger is not Democracy, but if this is true, Democracy without information is even much less Democracy. In the constitution I want, I consider a citizen's right to information about government management to be of vital importance.”

Sadly, nothing came out of it. But, last year, I sat down to chat with ChatGPT about how artificial intelligence A.I. could empower us citizens to enjoy a more significant democracy. It answered positively in many ways.

So, e.g., what if A.I. was able to report real time – 24/7 the earmarks are handed out by US Congressmen?

Sir, I ask, can democracy handle such transparency?

Human pilots and autopilots need to be trusting friends.

Sir, last year, flying to Washington DC, in a Boeing 337 MAX 9, the clouds were so low that the pilot missed the first approach to land at Dulles International Airport. We passengers were instructed: “Please, please completely turn off all, absolutely all your computers, iPad cellphones and similar, even if closed or placed in air-mode. We cannot afford any type of interference. The pilot has decided he can’t land the plane, and so he will have the auto-pilot do it.” 

Very long minutes of praying and checking up on co-passengers’ cellphones ensued. Finally, without having been able to see any land, thanks to God we landed.`` I asked my wife: “If they have to use the auto-pilot when things get really hard, why do they have pilots at all?”

Tim Harford answers that question in “Of top-notch algorithms and zoned-out humans” FT February 1. Harford writes: “A storm that blocked the sys­tem’s air­speed instru­ments with assist­ive fly-by-wire sys­tem that trans­lates the pilot’s jerky move­ments into smooth instructions. This makes it hard to crash an A330. But para­dox­ic­ally, it means that when a chal­lenge does occur, the pilots will have very little exper­i­ence to draw on as they try to meet that chal­lenge.”

What does it indicate as a solution? Clearly humans and autopilots need to communicate faster and clearer about who is more qualified to be in command. And that means they need to be able to trust each other much more.

Sir, after the experience I described, even though I have often complained about pain over my eyes when landing with a Boeing 337 MAX 9, probably because of some issues with its air pressure control, sincerely, after that landing, tell me how could I ever complain about that Boeing plane?

@PerKurowski

If AI systems were trained on using historical data that could sometimes help to avoid human biases.

Sir you write “Just as with any other computer system, the adage “garbage in, garbage out” applies to AI. If systems are trained using historical data, they will reproduce historical biases.”“Guidelines are a welcome step towards ethical AI” April 15.

Not necessarily so. Currently because human regulators suffer from something known as confirmation bias, they introduced risk weighted capital requirements for banks based on that what is perceived as risky is more dangerous to our bank systems than what is perceived as safe. The analysis of historical data about the origin of bank crises would clearly have shown this to be totally wrong. 

@PerKurowski

Artificial intelligence could help humanity to overcome some of its very human frailties.

Zia Chishti, the chairman and chief executive of Afiniti holds that AI is especially good at “the identification of patterns in complex data.” “Do not believe the hype about artificial intelligence” October 18.

I agree but sometimes we also need help identifying what we humans for some reasons are unable or find hard to see in very simple data. 

That’s why I have often tweeted out asking for IBM’s Watson’s (or Goggle's DeepMind) help, in making bank regulators understand that their risk weighted capital requirements for banks have gotten it all wrong. Had they really looked at simple data on bank crises, they would have immediately seen these were never caused by assets perceived ex ante as risky, but always by assets that when booked by banks were perceived as especially safe.

Perhaps the safe-is-risky and the risky-is-safe might just be a too hard concept for humans to swallow and act on. If that’s the case, in AI’s assistance we trust.

PS. Another useful factor is that AI has the advantage of being able to admit mistakes easier, as it has (I pray) a smaller ego than humans

PS. Here is an aide memoire on the mistakes in the risk weighted capital requirements for banks.

@PerKurowski

Productivity, real salaries, employment rates, GDP should consider the increased consumption of distractions during work hours

Sir, Erik Brynjolfsson (and Andrew McAfee) writes: “If machine learning is already superhuman, why did we not see it in productivity statistics earlier? The answer is that its breakthroughs haven’t yet had time to deeply change how work gets done” “Machine learning will be the engine of global growth” July 27.

That is true, but we also need to realize that we have not done yet measured the effect of all the increased consumption of distractions during working hours.

In Bank of England’s “bankunderground" blog we recently read: “With the rise of smartphones in particular, the amount of stimuli competing for our attention throughout the day has exploded... we are more distracted than ever as a result of the battle for our attention. One study, for example, finds that we are distracted nearly 50% of the time.”

And on a recent visit to a major shop in the Washington area, thinking about it, I noticed that 8 out of the 11 attendants I saw were busy with some type of activity on their cellphones, and I seriously suspect they were not just checking inventories.

The impact of that on productivity, with less effective working time is being put into production, could be huge.

Also, going from for instance a 10% to a 50% distraction signifies de facto that full time or paid by the hour employee’s real salaries have increased fabulously.

And what about the real employment rate if we deduct the hours engaged in distractions? A statistical nightmare? Will we ever be able to compare apples with apples again?

And how should all these working hours consumed with distractions be considered in the GDP figures?

@PerKurowski

We need worthy and decent unemployments

Sir, I refer to Martin Wolf’s “Work in the age of intelligent machines” June 27.

In 2012 (while I was still not censored in Venezuela) I wrote an Op-Ed titled “We need worthy and decent unemployments”. In it I held “The power of a nation, and the productivity of its economy, which so far has depended primarily on the quality of its employees may, in the future, also depend on the quality of its unemployed, as a minimum in the sense of these not interrupting those working.”

That is the reason why I am absolutely sure our societies have to start urgently, even if from a very low level, to implement an unconditional universal basic income (UBI).

And referring also to Sarah O’Connor’s “Minimum wage laws still fall short for those on the bottom” June 27, let me point out that while minimum wages raises the bar for the creation of jobs, UBI is a stepping stool that allows you to reach up to the mostly low paying jobs of the gig economy. 

PS. You want to increase the minimum wage $2 per hour? Better pay $2x40x4 $320 in universal basic income to all.

@PerKurowski

What if Artificial Intelligence helps predict decently correct Portfolio Variant Bank Capital Requirements?

Sir, Tim Harford refers to “Prediction Machines by Ajay Agrawal, Joshua Gans and Avi Goldfarb [which] argues that we’re starting to enjoy the benefits of a new, low-cost service: predictions. Much of what we call artificial intelligence is best understood as a dirt-cheap prediction. “Cheap innovations often beat magical ones” May 5.

If a credit to a risky borrower is not excessively large, and carries a correct risk premium, it can provide more safety to a bank’s portfolio, than a credit to a borrower perceived as safe.

Unfortunately, and as was stated in “An Explanatory Note on the Basel II IRB (internal ratings-based) Risk Weight Functions”,“Taking into account the actual portfolio composition when determining capital for each loan - as is done in more advanced credit portfolio models - would have been a too complex task for most banks and supervisors alike.”

And so to make up for that difficulty the regulator decided: “In the context of regulatory capital allocation, portfolio invariant allocation schemes are also called ratings-based. This notion stems from the fact that, by portfolio invariance, obligor specific attributes like probability of default, loss given default and exposure at default suffice to determine the capital charges of credit instruments.”

And to justify it they argued that: “essentially only so-called Asymptotic Single Risk Factor (ASRF) models are portfolio invariant (Gordy, 2003).”

How anyone could have understood that and further explanations given, is beyond me.

But, what if Artificial Intelligence had then allowed bank regulators to make their capital requirements portfolio variant? Many other bad things could of course have happened, but surely AI would have warned against too much exposure being built up with assets perceived (residential mortgages), decreed (sovereigns like Greece) or concocted (AAA rated securities) as safe. And also about too little exposures to what is perceived risky, like loans to entrepreneurs.

The danger is though that since we are clearly not capable to duly question human regulators’ expertize, we could end up questioning even less any Artificial Intelligence’s also quite possible mumbo jumbo. 

@PerKurowski

Universal Basic Income seems to be the most neutral and efficient tool to handle the unknown upheavals the use of artificial intelligence and robots will bring.

Sir, Rana Foroohar writes: “A McKinsey Global Institute report out on Wednesday shows that, while digitalisation has the potential to boost productivity and growth, it may also hold back demand if it compresses labour’s share of income and increases inequality.” “Why workers need a ‘digital New Deal’” February 19.

That sure seems to make the case for a Universal Basic Income, a Social Dividend, both from a social fairness angle and from the perspective of market efficiency.

To preempt that really unknown challenge at hand, Foroohar proposes something she names “the 25 percent solution” based on how Germany tackled an entirely different problem, the financial crisis. What it entails makes me suspect it could risk reducing the growth and productivity that could be achieved, and waste so much of the resources used to manage the consequences, so that only 25 percent, or less, of the potential benefits of having artificial intelligence and robots working for us would be obtained.

I worry sufficiently about a possible new Chinese curse of “May your grandchildren live with 3rd class robots and dumb artificial intelligence”; to also have to add “May your grandchildren have to serve the huge debt derived from technocrats defending your generation from artificial intelligence and robots.

Sir, I had more than enough of besserwissers trying to defend us and when doing so causing much more harm. Like when regulators, full of hubris, promised “We will make your bank system safer with our risk weighted capital requirements for banks”.

http://myubi.blogspot.ca/2017/01/my-universal-basic-income.html

@PerKurowski

If AI was allowed to have a crack at the weights used by current risk weighted capital requirements for banks, the regulators would surely have a lot of explaining to do.

Sir, John Thornhill writes that he saw an artificial intelligence program crack in 12 minutes and 50 seconds the mindbendingly complex Enigma code used by the Germans during the second world war” “Competent computers still cannot comprehend” January 9.

I wish AI would also be asked to suggest some weights for the risk weighted capital requirements for banks.

For instance in Basel II the standardized risk weight assigned to something rated AAA, and therefore perceived as very safe, something to which banks could build up dangerous exposures, is 20%; while the risk weight for something rated below BB-, and therefore perceived to be very risky, and therefore banker won’t touch it with a ten feet pole, is 150%.

I would love to see for instance Mario Draghi’s, Mark Carney’s, and Stefan Ingves’ faces, if artificial intelligence, smilingly, came up with weights indicating a quite inverse relation between perceived risks and real dangers to a banking system.

http://perkurowski.blogspot.com/2016/04/here-are-17-reasons-for-why-i-believe.html

@PerKurowski

Current risk weighted capital requirements for banks are a stand out example of “garbage in garbage out”

Sir, when discussing artificial intelligence and “how much power should be ceded to the machines” you mention: First. “the need to overcome limitations in machine learning techniques”; Second. “garbage in, garbage out…the need for better quality control”; and Third. “the need to develop a clear and transparent governance structure for AI”, “The paradox in ceding powers of decision to AI” December 30.

Sir, human intelligence is quite often in need of all that too.

When bank regulators used intrinsic risks of bank assets as inputs for developing their risk weighted capital requirement, they could not produce anything but garbage out. What they should have used is unexpected events or the risk those assets could pose to our bank system, namely the risk that bankers would not be able to adequately manage perceived risks.

And little evidences the need for a transparent governance structure for human intelligence too, as current regulators refusal to answer the very basic questions: “Why do you require banks to hold more capital against assets made innocous by being perceived as risky than against assets becoming dangerous by being perceived as safe?”.

Humans must also also overcome some technical limitations: An Explanatory Note by the Basel Committee on the Basel II IRB (internal ratings-based) Risk Weight Functions” expresses: “The model [is] portfolio invariant and so the capital required for any given loan does only depend on the risk of that loan and must not depend on the portfolio it is added to.”

And the explicit reason for that mindboggling simplification is: “This characteristic has been deemed vital in order to make the new IRB framework applicable to a wider range of countries and institutions. Taking into account the actual portfolio composition when determining capital for each loan - as is done in more advanced credit portfolio models - would have been a too complex task for most banks and supervisors alike.”

Sir, finally, I would add a fourth requirement, namely to make sure artificial intelligence is kept free from that excessive hubris and besserwisserism that too often affect humans. Like that which kept regulators from even having to define the purpose or banks before regulating these,

@PerKurowski

Systemic risks in the financial sector keep growing. Yesterday risk weighted capital requirements and credit rating agencies. Today artificial intelligence

I refer to Izabella Kaminska’s discussion of a report published by FSB on the financial stability implications of artificial intelligence and machine learning in financial services. “When AI becomes too big to fail”, FT Alphaville, November 1 

1: “This warrants a societal discussion on the desired extent of risk sharing, how the algorithms are conceived, and which information are admissible.”

That is a discussion that should also have taken place before regulators, with their risk weighted capital requirements, created incentives for our banks, one societal prime risk-takers, to avoid all what is perceived as risky, like SMEs and entrepreneurs, and concentrate exclusively on what is perceived, decreed or concocted as safe. 

2:“Fintech and AI are being aggressively marketed as our best and only opportunity to diminish the concentrated power of the banks. The terms “new entrants”, “disruption”, “fragmentation” and “open access” form the foundations of the movement. And yet… none of these clever systems, if the FSB is to be believed, are necessarily clever enough to fend off the forces of consolidation that bring about systemic risks.”

What can I say except to repeat what I as an Executive Director of the World Bank opined when in 2003 I learned that the Basel Committee was going to put so much power in the hands of some few human fallible rating agencies… and now we are to switch into some, or one, hackable AI?

“Ages ago, when information was less available and moved at a slower pace, the market consisted of a myriad of individual agents acting on limited information basis. Nowadays, when information is just too voluminous and fast to handle, market or authorities have decided to delegate the evaluation of it into the hands of much fewer players such as the credit rating agencies. This will, almost by definition, introduce systemic risks in the market and we are already able to discern some of the victims, although they are just the tip of an iceberg.” 

“A mixture of thousand solutions, many of them inadequate, may lead to a flexible world that can bend with the storms. A world obsessed with Best Practices may calcify its structure and break with any small wind.”

If chefs cannot obtain effective intellectual protection for their recipes, how can they beat robots armed with AI?

Sir, Sarah O’Connor writes: “The risks to workers from ever smarter computers are clear, but the opportunities will lie in maximising the value of their human skills. For some people, such as talented chefs, the battle is already won.” “Machines do not have to be the enemy” November 1.

Oh boy, is she not a romantic? How on earth will individual chefs survive against robots and AI, unless it is for those few the 1% of the 1% is able and willing to pay for their human artisan cuisine creations protected by patents?

That “In most jobs, people combine cognitive skills with other human abilities: physical movement; vision; common sense; compassion; craftsmanship… that computers cannot match”, that unfortunately sounds like wishful thinking.

Much better is it if we accept that robots and AI can supplant us humans, in way too many ways, and instead look for ways how they should be able to work better for all humanity. And in this respect she is right, "machines are not the enemy".

I say this because since many years I have held that we do need to prepare decent and worthy unemployments, in order to better confront a possible structural unemployment, and without which our social fabrics would break down completely. Capisci?

That might begin by taxing the robots so at least humans can compete on equal terms.

Of course a totally different world might be out there in the future, but I can’t but to stand firmly on my western civilization’s stepping-stones, those that got me to where I am.

@PerKurowski

I am the grandfather of two Torontonian girls. Do I like Alphabet’s Sidewalk Labs? I love it… as long as

Sir, as a father of two Torontonians, and grandfather of other two Torontonians, it is of course with much interest I read Leslie Hook’s “Toronto offers Alphabet downtown land to practice designs for cities of future” October 19.

I do love that "Quayside" project… subject to:

It shoots for the most intelligent artificial intelligence and the smartest robots, as I would hate my granddaughters to have to surround themselves with half-baked artificial intelligence and 2nd class robots.

It allows for some here-you-can-totally-lose-yourself free from artificial recognition space to my granddaughters, in order for them to be able to find themselves, and all is not Big-Brother-watches you space.

It provides some absolutely-nothing-spots that guarantee my granddaughters to be able to experience, quite often, that boredom so essential for creativity and thinking.

It does not leave in its wake a huge Torontonian debt to be serviced by the grandchildren of my granddaughters.

Alphabet splits, at least 50% 50%, with Toronto, all profits that could be generated by all patents resulting from inventions and experiences obtained during the Sidewalk Labs project.

PS. And of course as long as it duly considers the possibility or rising water levels.

@PerKurowski

Canada needs a Universal Basic Income, 1st class robots and the smartest artificial intelligence, and to be daring

Sir, as a Venezuelan I am so lucky and so grateful for having two of my daughters and my two granddaughters living in Canada; and so of course I gave special attention to Tyler Brûlé’s “My plan to make Canada great again” September 31.

Except perhaps for that of “some form of national service with both defence and civilian functions”, and which because of my Swedish connections rang a bell with me, his other proposals left me quite indifferent.

I would instead suggest the following three things.

1. To prepare itself for the possibility of structural unemployment that could cause a breakdown of social order. This will probably require the introduction of a modest Universal Basic Income, a social dividend, and not paid by taking on more debt.

2. To gather all possible brain power in order to guarantee that future Canadians live surrounded and served by 1st class robots and the smartest artificial intelligence possible. Thinking of mine being dependent on anything lesser is just too horrible.

3. To immediately get rid of the risk weighted capital requirements for banks. These have banks staying away from financing the “riskier” future, like SMEs, and just keeping to refinancing the “safer” past, or basements in which to live. Risk taking is the oxygen of any development. God, make Canada daring!

PS. On Bombardier the following was my pro-Nafta tweet: “The fundamental question: Would Boeing build better airplanes in the future with or without competition from Bombardier? Keep the pressure!”

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More intelligent but less uncontrollable, or dumber and more controllable robots, that is the real tough question

Sir, you write “some researchers have called for greater “robot transparency” — safeguards to ensure that humans can always grasp what the most sophisticated machines are doing, and why… Robots can help people with their work and unleash social and economic benefits. But they must be trusted, or the humans will vote to take back control”, “Intelligent robots must be trusted by humans” August 5.

Sir, what do you prefer, more intelligent but less uncontrollable or dumber and more controllable robots?

What are we to do if controlling our intelligent robots makes these weaker than those of our future enemies, whoever these will be?

I ask this because the revised version of that Chinese curse that holds "may your children live in interesting times", could very easily be, may your children lived surrounded by 3rd class robots and dumb artificial intelligence. 

So even if “The era in which robots might redesign themselves constantly and advance beyond human understanding, is far into the future” their education, like that of the humans, might very well start in quite early childhood. 

http://perkurowski.blogspot.se/2017/02/here-some-disorderly-lose-cannon.html

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Those profiteering on the employed, moneywise or politically, make us ignore, to our peril, the unemployed.

Sir, Kiran Stacey and Anna Nicolaou report on “Emerging nations in South Asia and beyond are pinning their development hopes on creating millions of low-paid manufacturing jobs over the next decade. Advances in automation threaten to derail the plan.”, “Stitched up by robots”, July 18.

And Rajiv Kumar an economist and founder of the Pahle India Foundation says: “Robotics and artificial intelligence are the next revolution. They are going to be more disruptive than any of the revolutions we have seen in the past — steam, electricity, the assembly line or computers — because they are going to replace not just routine but complex mental functions. The fear is that our so-called demographic dividend could become a demographic nightmare.”

Absolutely! In 2003 I already wrote about the possible need for sitting around in a great human circle, scratching each other backs, and paying good money for the service

And in 2012, more desperate, I called out that “We need worthy and decent unemployments”

Currently there are too much resources wasted, dedicated to trying to generate employments, and too little trying to make unemployment socially livable. Why? Might it be because the employed have more resources with which to pay their defenders?

We must do something, perhaps like a universal basic income, before social order breaks down. Reconstructing social order is so much harder. I as a Venezuelan should know.

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Do we want to settle for working or middle class robots? I want the 1% top ones to work for my grandchildren

Sir, Sarah O’Connor while discussing the issue of jobs, for humans or robots, sensibly concludes that it is not “the routine jobs” taken over by robots that should bother us but “the basic stuff — homes, security, prospects — that we lost along the way” “The middle class is not shrinking as much as it thinks” July 11.

O’Connor brings up an interview from a 1974 book “Working” written by social historian Studs Terkel. In it a steelworker says: “I want my kid to be an effete snob . . . If you can’t improve yourself, you improve your posterity. Otherwise life isn’t worth nothing.”

I sure agree with this steelworker’s general concept, but, if my grandchildren must turn into effete snobs, I hope it is not because they have been replaced by some low or middle class robots, but by the 1% absolutely best ones… or the smartest ever artificial intelligence.

Sir, it should be clear that the better the robots that work for us the more they could produce for us. The marginal contribution of robots that substitutes for bank tellers must surely be less than that of robots that substitutes for bank CEOs.

Just as an example, let us suppose current bank regulations had been carried out not by Basel Committee technocrats, but by some smart artificial intelligence. Then the 2008 crisis and the ensuing slow growth would never have happened. Mr. AI would of course first have looked at what causes major bank crisis and so determine that excessive exposures to something ex ante perceived as risky, never ever did. He would also have understood that allowing banks to multiply with different leverages the net risk adjusted margins, would completely distort the allocation of bank credit to the real economy.

So what can we do? I would say first to make sure to keep the competitive pressure up on robot manufacturers. If we increase minimum wages for humans and do not begin taxing what the robots produce, we will not get the best robots we want.

An updated Chinese curse would be: “I wish your grandchildren live attended by 3rd class robots and dumb artificial intelligence.” And Sir, I would hate for that to happen to my grandchildren, because of something that I did or did not do.

Of course then we would come to the very delicate issue of how do we redistribute robot and automation productivity to humans. That is going to be awfully contentious. The only thing that occurs to me, before social cohesion breaks down, is to being by trying out a universal basic income.

That UBI should start out low and be very carefully designed. That is so because an UBI would become de-facto the robot that substitutes for the current redistribution profiteers, and so these would love to see it fail.

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